It's a two pronged assault. Barrett's remarks about abortion made me nauseous. It confirmed my fears that the rabid right does not consider women fully human. But the fact that they are willing to chuck stare decisis as a power play to please their funders is blood curdling.
I keep thinking that the solution is to form a religion because religions seem to be the privileged entities in their eyes.
Every independent researcher, including and especially Dr. Robert Malone who invented the mRNA technology in 1989, has called for the end of this drug program. The data from around the world, including the US, clearly shows the deaths are mainly in the vaccinated who are the ones who are shedding and spreading. Further, the levels of viral fragments in vaccinated and unvaccinated are no different showing these drugs do nothing. Of course the PCR test, itself, is being used erroneously as it identifies nothing, specifically not C-19 which has never been isolated. This is true from every other country trying to do research on this alleged virus and includes Fauci who has stated the CDC does not have any samples of this virus.
You might also chew on this: Peter Daszak, who worked with Fauci and took several $$$million for a gain-of-function grant to be done in conjunction with the Chinese, stated publicly in 2015 at the National Academy of Sciences they had a need to create a narrative that required the media to support the effort to create a pandemic based hype to push a vaccine that will attract big money interests to invest in it. This is not conspiracy as Dr David Martin defines as this was the plan laid out in public. Conspiracies are planned with 2 or more people with the intentional goals of hiding and harming the public. This was just a plain out nefarious plan in pubiic view. However, the use of the media to bury these intents and distort information makes is conspiratorial in my book.
We need a multi-layered response. One of those layers is to revoke the tax-exempt status of religious entities. In this article by Mark Oppenheimer, he explains why this isn't as bad as some would have you believe. It is not a secret that almost all religious groups, from the mainstream to the right-wing, already break the Johnson Amendment law with impunity. Oppenheimer also points out that other nonprofits should also lose this exemption. Trump made many efforts to kill the Johnson Amendment entirely as a gift to his Evangelical supporters. The repeal of the Johnson Amendment was put into the Republican tax reform bill. Senator Ron Wyden used the Byrd Rule to stop it.
This is really important: and liberal institutions are far more self-moderating in this regard because they more or less believe in the legitimacy of the law.
And let’s never forget it’s about the right to enjoy sex. For women to have the freedom of enjoying not just controlling their bodies. Sexual pleasure, especially women ‘s, is anathema to puritanical dominion past and present. Lust is a deadly sin. This repressive order is what unites the prohibitions on homosexuality and women’s sexual freedom. It goes to the core of domination (male)—who will have pleasure and who will serve and labor at the master’s pleasure. Not only the right of women to choose motherhood or not, the right to choose whatever kind of sex they want. We could go on…
I seem to recall reading of evidence that women have always had abortions. Herbs like carrot seed and others that we probably no longer have any history to describe. And of course unwanted pregnancies from rape were also abundant particularly since patriarchy rose its head (pun intended). And fast forwarding to the 1960-70's women seemed to get pregnant just from looking. It was a big underground network of information and help that existed. But the stress from the cloak and dagger access and the frightening unknown of whether you survived and survived reproductively in tack was a great stress. Often the end result was not good for women.
I recall the rising up of women to demand the right to control our own body as a core feminist principle and fight. To not have control over your own body is a form of enslavement. it is all about power with one class of people, men, being able to suppress women and control them for male purposes. Sexism has not changed one iota and the many women who serve men's need for power and control are the same today as in years past--a false sense of identity, an identity based on internalized sexism as we used to call it.
The piece that makes it more insidious and dangerous today is the gallop toward blatant totalitarianism that we are suffering. The use of this current covid debacle to propagandize people into a state of submission in which we lose almost all civil liberties is frightening in a way i have never experienced. As RFK jr says in studying the history of totalitarianism he has never seen any such State move into this state of dictatorship so quickly as in the past year in the US where we have lost just about every one of our Bill of Rights except one--guns! It is not just forced predgnancies we have to fear but the total loss of our body if they can force drug us with any toxic drug they want just by creating fear regardless of the truth.
But I think you are pointing here to a problem here with the polemic. The "My body, my choice" has now been redeployed to the vaccine controversy, which it was never meant to describe as a slogan. There is nothing about abortion to pregnancy that harms others outside the woman's body: with a disease, no person can control whether they spread it or not.
Sorry but totally disagree with you as the concern you voice is based on blatant lies and propaganda. Read any of the data from EU countries, Isreal and even the US and it is the vaccinated that are sick and spreading illness. It is absolutely untenable to shut down the entire economy for an illness created in a lab in order to promote a repressive, anti-democratic agenda of the ruling 1%; ie, the WEF Great Agenda project of which Fauci was a total supporter going back many year when the ides of it were being generated. Covid cannot be understood without looking at the use of fear to promote repressive, dictatorial agendas. The efforts to control ones own body and refuse to be drugged with untested, toxic drugs without meaningful informed consent is nothing other than an attempt to preserve our humanity and protect ourselves against a creeping tyranny that is using fear of health as the tool to promote this agenda. Here is a little article from the Lancet which you probably know as a mainstream, credible medical journal;
But as you also know, transmission rates are very different from hospitalization and death rates, which are dramatically lower in vaccinated people. "The death rate is a key metric that can accurately show us how effective vaccines are against severe forms of the disease."
No Claire. The breakthrough cases are predominantly in the vaccinated people. Further, the numbers are even worse than reported as Fauci keeps changing definitions to push his nefarious agenda. The mutations are from the vaccines and the deaths and adverse reactions are in the vaccinated. And so are the deaths. What you seem unaware of is the hospitalization deaths are mainly due to the erroneous treatments forced onto people. For example, Remsdesevir (sp?) killed more than 50% of test subjects but is now the Fauci/CDC protocol forced onto the medical industry. It is not safe or effective. The drug being falsely called a vaccine was never intended to do anything except sell the drugs, be part of the fear mongering propaganda and cause massive illness and long term destruction of the human immune system and ability to reproduce. Now if you spent your time listenting the science researchers and medical practitioners and the people suffering dire consequences after these drugs then you would change your position. But that requires that you be willing to confront your belief system which seems to have some unwarranted trust in a corporate designed and controlled agenda which has nothing to do with protecting the public's health.
And having spent the last week doing such listening and reading my emotional tone is quite angry at the intentional damage that is being created and more than frustrated with people who have the ability to understand refuse to do so.
This drives me crazy when I hear people hijack "My body, my choice" in defense of anti-vaccination. We need to start teaching the principles of informal logic beginning in 8th grade. Many, many people have little or no understanding of categorical logic or propositional logic for that matter as well. They literally do not understand why that statement cannot be used in that way.
Agreed--but I also think people are being encouraged by political consultants to think in very superficial ways that then bend them towards gaslighting.
Excellent, Claire! I saw my best friend through an illegal abortion in '65. It was the best of circumstances in that she had a real M.D., but he did a d and c with NO anesthesia, so she came out screaming and bleeding, and charged $900! About $7500 today. Women don't stop getting abortions, they just get unsafe ones. Hospitals used to have a "septic ward" for women with infections received from these. Bonnie Anderson
Thank you Bonnie--and you point to something really important, which is that abortion is a medical procedure that needs to be governed by medical protocols, which can't happen if it is done under the table, even by a doctor who might otherwise be qualified to do -it--he would have needed a qualified anesthesiologist and knew he wasn't -- and so did it in a way that brutalized the patient. I have also always thought that, in some cases, this was meant to teach a woman a lesson to, um, not get pregnant?
It's a two pronged assault. Barrett's remarks about abortion made me nauseous. It confirmed my fears that the rabid right does not consider women fully human. But the fact that they are willing to chuck stare decisis as a power play to please their funders is blood curdling.
I keep thinking that the solution is to form a religion because religions seem to be the privileged entities in their eyes.
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Here is one the many articles that deride this health bruhaha and I hope you find it informative.
https://www.globalresearch.ca/trends-in-mortality-and-morbidity-in-the-most-vaccinated-countries-twenty-one-proven-facts/5761773
Every independent researcher, including and especially Dr. Robert Malone who invented the mRNA technology in 1989, has called for the end of this drug program. The data from around the world, including the US, clearly shows the deaths are mainly in the vaccinated who are the ones who are shedding and spreading. Further, the levels of viral fragments in vaccinated and unvaccinated are no different showing these drugs do nothing. Of course the PCR test, itself, is being used erroneously as it identifies nothing, specifically not C-19 which has never been isolated. This is true from every other country trying to do research on this alleged virus and includes Fauci who has stated the CDC does not have any samples of this virus.
You might also chew on this: Peter Daszak, who worked with Fauci and took several $$$million for a gain-of-function grant to be done in conjunction with the Chinese, stated publicly in 2015 at the National Academy of Sciences they had a need to create a narrative that required the media to support the effort to create a pandemic based hype to push a vaccine that will attract big money interests to invest in it. This is not conspiracy as Dr David Martin defines as this was the plan laid out in public. Conspiracies are planned with 2 or more people with the intentional goals of hiding and harming the public. This was just a plain out nefarious plan in pubiic view. However, the use of the media to bury these intents and distort information makes is conspiratorial in my book.
We need a multi-layered response. One of those layers is to revoke the tax-exempt status of religious entities. In this article by Mark Oppenheimer, he explains why this isn't as bad as some would have you believe. It is not a secret that almost all religious groups, from the mainstream to the right-wing, already break the Johnson Amendment law with impunity. Oppenheimer also points out that other nonprofits should also lose this exemption. Trump made many efforts to kill the Johnson Amendment entirely as a gift to his Evangelical supporters. The repeal of the Johnson Amendment was put into the Republican tax reform bill. Senator Ron Wyden used the Byrd Rule to stop it.
https://time.com/3939143/nows-the-time-to-end-tax-exemptions-for-religious-institutions/
This is really important: and liberal institutions are far more self-moderating in this regard because they more or less believe in the legitimacy of the law.
Agreed. And I am not anti-religion - just anti-fundamentalism.
And let’s never forget it’s about the right to enjoy sex. For women to have the freedom of enjoying not just controlling their bodies. Sexual pleasure, especially women ‘s, is anathema to puritanical dominion past and present. Lust is a deadly sin. This repressive order is what unites the prohibitions on homosexuality and women’s sexual freedom. It goes to the core of domination (male)—who will have pleasure and who will serve and labor at the master’s pleasure. Not only the right of women to choose motherhood or not, the right to choose whatever kind of sex they want. We could go on…
Yes: Elaine Tyler May's book about The Pill is particularly good on this topic.
I seem to recall reading of evidence that women have always had abortions. Herbs like carrot seed and others that we probably no longer have any history to describe. And of course unwanted pregnancies from rape were also abundant particularly since patriarchy rose its head (pun intended). And fast forwarding to the 1960-70's women seemed to get pregnant just from looking. It was a big underground network of information and help that existed. But the stress from the cloak and dagger access and the frightening unknown of whether you survived and survived reproductively in tack was a great stress. Often the end result was not good for women.
I recall the rising up of women to demand the right to control our own body as a core feminist principle and fight. To not have control over your own body is a form of enslavement. it is all about power with one class of people, men, being able to suppress women and control them for male purposes. Sexism has not changed one iota and the many women who serve men's need for power and control are the same today as in years past--a false sense of identity, an identity based on internalized sexism as we used to call it.
The piece that makes it more insidious and dangerous today is the gallop toward blatant totalitarianism that we are suffering. The use of this current covid debacle to propagandize people into a state of submission in which we lose almost all civil liberties is frightening in a way i have never experienced. As RFK jr says in studying the history of totalitarianism he has never seen any such State move into this state of dictatorship so quickly as in the past year in the US where we have lost just about every one of our Bill of Rights except one--guns! It is not just forced predgnancies we have to fear but the total loss of our body if they can force drug us with any toxic drug they want just by creating fear regardless of the truth.
But I think you are pointing here to a problem here with the polemic. The "My body, my choice" has now been redeployed to the vaccine controversy, which it was never meant to describe as a slogan. There is nothing about abortion to pregnancy that harms others outside the woman's body: with a disease, no person can control whether they spread it or not.
Sorry but totally disagree with you as the concern you voice is based on blatant lies and propaganda. Read any of the data from EU countries, Isreal and even the US and it is the vaccinated that are sick and spreading illness. It is absolutely untenable to shut down the entire economy for an illness created in a lab in order to promote a repressive, anti-democratic agenda of the ruling 1%; ie, the WEF Great Agenda project of which Fauci was a total supporter going back many year when the ides of it were being generated. Covid cannot be understood without looking at the use of fear to promote repressive, dictatorial agendas. The efforts to control ones own body and refuse to be drugged with untested, toxic drugs without meaningful informed consent is nothing other than an attempt to preserve our humanity and protect ourselves against a creeping tyranny that is using fear of health as the tool to promote this agenda. Here is a little article from the Lancet which you probably know as a mainstream, credible medical journal;
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanepe/article/PIIS2666-7762(21)00258-1/fulltext?s=08
But as you also know, transmission rates are very different from hospitalization and death rates, which are dramatically lower in vaccinated people. "The death rate is a key metric that can accurately show us how effective vaccines are against severe forms of the disease."
https://ourworldindata.org/covid-deaths-by-vaccination
No Claire. The breakthrough cases are predominantly in the vaccinated people. Further, the numbers are even worse than reported as Fauci keeps changing definitions to push his nefarious agenda. The mutations are from the vaccines and the deaths and adverse reactions are in the vaccinated. And so are the deaths. What you seem unaware of is the hospitalization deaths are mainly due to the erroneous treatments forced onto people. For example, Remsdesevir (sp?) killed more than 50% of test subjects but is now the Fauci/CDC protocol forced onto the medical industry. It is not safe or effective. The drug being falsely called a vaccine was never intended to do anything except sell the drugs, be part of the fear mongering propaganda and cause massive illness and long term destruction of the human immune system and ability to reproduce. Now if you spent your time listenting the science researchers and medical practitioners and the people suffering dire consequences after these drugs then you would change your position. But that requires that you be willing to confront your belief system which seems to have some unwarranted trust in a corporate designed and controlled agenda which has nothing to do with protecting the public's health.
And having spent the last week doing such listening and reading my emotional tone is quite angry at the intentional damage that is being created and more than frustrated with people who have the ability to understand refuse to do so.
This drives me crazy when I hear people hijack "My body, my choice" in defense of anti-vaccination. We need to start teaching the principles of informal logic beginning in 8th grade. Many, many people have little or no understanding of categorical logic or propositional logic for that matter as well. They literally do not understand why that statement cannot be used in that way.
Agreed--but I also think people are being encouraged by political consultants to think in very superficial ways that then bend them towards gaslighting.
Excellent, Claire! I saw my best friend through an illegal abortion in '65. It was the best of circumstances in that she had a real M.D., but he did a d and c with NO anesthesia, so she came out screaming and bleeding, and charged $900! About $7500 today. Women don't stop getting abortions, they just get unsafe ones. Hospitals used to have a "septic ward" for women with infections received from these. Bonnie Anderson
Nicely done, Claire.
Thank you Susan!
I think Bonnie is wrong.
No one needs a qualified anesthesiologist for a first trimester abortion.
Thank you Bonnie--and you point to something really important, which is that abortion is a medical procedure that needs to be governed by medical protocols, which can't happen if it is done under the table, even by a doctor who might otherwise be qualified to do -it--he would have needed a qualified anesthesiologist and knew he wasn't -- and so did it in a way that brutalized the patient. I have also always thought that, in some cases, this was meant to teach a woman a lesson to, um, not get pregnant?
I reminds me of that horrible saying, "She got herself pregnant." Thanks again, Claire.