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There are few moments that have given me as much pleasure as listening to two historians, women, and creative doers like you two talking about this unique project and the huge, systemic obstacles that exist in the path of creative projects for the public good. New York City needs more disruptors like Ann Buttenwieser. It also needs a broader vision and a systemic overhaul if the City hopes to serve the public better and face the major environmental and social challenges. GREAT conversation!

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It was an extremely fun interview to do, and I learned so much!

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